Re: these comments about this post, IndieWeb Ethos and Pagecord, and the previous appearances of Bubbles on IndieNews.
Three anecdotes, in triptych:
1) As of April 21st, Khürt Williams’ last reply is chock full of negative parallelisms and em dashes in combination with assertions that don't make sense in context, agreeably conceding the main points while continuing to insist on the same conclusion. It’s enough to make a person wonder.
2) On April 23rd, after the blog feed aggregator Bubbles had launched to much acclaim, it came to light that the creator had fed all the blogs to one of Anthropic’s LLM products, without asking the anyone first. In the ensuing discussion, I ended up hearing from AetherAnne that aggregators like these are part of why she doesn’t have an RSS feed.
3) This past August, in a now-vanished post about the indie web, Olly of Pagecord made mention of using an LLM product for programming. In the subsequent discussion, it also came to light that he had fed it the entirety of another person’s blog without that person’s consent. In response to the negative reactions to all this, Olly claims indifference.
Together these incidents have me thinking about the tensions embedded in the indie web principle of “own your data.” For some, it would seem, owning your data refers strictly to unlimited dissemination, not to any personal control or assertion of boundaries. Only the infinite extension of the yes, without regard for the no.
That’s one possible vision for the indie web, but I don’t think it needs to be the only one, and I don’t think it deserves the last word. The indie web can favor small sites over corporate exploitation. The indie web can favor resistance over infinite intrusion. The indie web can favor autonomy and solidarity over disowning y(our) data to an LLM.
Crossposted to Pillowfort and my personal site.